ATI ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV Graphics Card

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With 64MB of DDR memory, unbelievable graphics, TV and video capture & editing features, the ALL-IN-WONDER® RADEON 8500DV is the revolutionary all-in-one 3D graphics and multimedia experience.
Quick Glance
Slot/Port Type AGP 4x
Video Chipset Radeon 8500
Interface Connection 1 x S/PDIF S/PDIF, 1 x S-Video S-Video In, 1 x S-Video S-Video Out, 1 x Audio Line In, 1 x Audio Line Out, 1 x DVI-I, 2 x 6-pin IEEE 1394 (6-pin) IEEE 1394a - FireWire, 1 x Composite Composite Video In, 1 x Composite Composite Video Out
normalized-Installed Video Memory 64
User Reviews
2 Star Review   By member texasbrew - Sep 12, 2003   

Strengths: Very good card for gaming. I play Battlefield 1942 online at high resolution and the card works without a glitch.

Weakness: I cannot get Windows XP to recogonize the three firewire ports. ATI tech support says it is a windows problem and I cannot get a response on the windows message boards.

This is my second ATI video card. Both work fine for video capture and recording, except for the firewire problem with the newest card. Tech support is not good at all. After e-mailing ATI tech support several times I keep getting a return e-mail telling me to click on links for the most common problems. It is as if a human does not look at my e-mails and an automated system sends reply e-mails. I will probably not buy another ATI product, because the main reason I bought the card is for the firewire capability. If all I wanted was a video card I could have bought one of the same quality at a cheaper price. An update to this: I sent the card back to ATI ($8 UPS including $200 insurance), they had it for two days and sent me a brand new one that works. My question is, if they new there was a problem with this card and I registered mine, why didn't they contact me and let me know that there was a possible problem? If your firewire ports don't work and you are under the 3 year warranty, send it back!

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5 Star Review   By member professorchaos - Aug 17, 2003   

Strengths: Thru-view window, capture, price I HAVE MINE HOOKED UP TO A 42inch PLASMA, yes I am a true geek

Weakness: Yeah, Yeah.....The drivers. If you're a weekend tinkerer, this card might prove to be a challenge to instal.

For the price, how can you complain? Turn your computer into a tv, what more can you ask for? If you spend alot of time in front of your machine, like me, you'll love this thing...Assuming you can work and watch tv at the same time. I don't play many games so i opted for only 64MB. I'll admit it's kind of a pain in the butt to set up, so non-techies might want to have their local geek set it up for them. By the way, for all those people with negative comments: 1)you must update the ati media software package as well as the catalyst! 2)this card utilizes dma on the primary Hard drive, so you might need to configure some other settings that you might not be familiar with, if the thing reboots when you have a recording session scheduled. 3)download the windows media encoder(free)to stream live tv to your desktop at work. I watch tv with this card from 40 miles away and use the remote desktop in XP Pro to change the channel. The windows media encoder actually takes control of the tuner in the card so you can change the channel right in the program itself without opening the ati TV. I wish i could post a link for this to help all you guys out, cause it seems everyone has a problem with it.

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5 Star Review   By member DYLAN69 - Jun 30, 2003   

Strengths: EVERYTHING

Weakness: ALLREADY CONSIDERED EOL (END OF LIFE) BY ATI

I DONT GET ALL THE BAD REVIEWS. THIS BOARD ROCKS. I THINK THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT LIKE THIS CARD DONT UNDERSTAND THAT IT WASNT MENT TO BE USED JUST FOR GAMEING. I MEAN IF THATS WHAT YOUR PRIMARILLY DO WITH YOUR COMPUTER THEN YEA, YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE IT. BUT HEY GET A CLUE. DID YOU NOTICE AL THE MULTI-MEDIA ASPECTS OF THIS CARD? I MEAN COME ON USE YOUR HEAD. AS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE COMPLAINTS. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO CALL ATI ABOUT ANYWAY? IF YOU WANT TO TURN THE TV ON THEN CLICK THE TV BUTTON, SAME GOES FOR ALL THE OTHER FUNCTIONS. PRETTY SIMPLE STUFF HERE THANK GOD MOST OF YOU ARNT GONNA BE ROCKET SCIENTISTS. IF YOU CANT GET THE CARD TO WORK---STOP SPENDING MAMA'S MONEY ON TECHNOLOGY YOU REALLY DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT ANYWAY. PLAY YOUR KIDDY GAMES WITH SOMETING DESIGNED FOR GAMES!

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4 Star Review   By member benspargur - May 22, 2003   

Strengths: Several Video in/out features

Weakness: Recordings frequently poor and frequently requires reboot to fix poor recording and TV captures.

Overall the product is very good. Most of the features work as advertised yet support is indeed poor. Website support also lacking. Most of the time captures are superb but recordings become poor and require reboot to fix. I am running a very capable PC 2.53 Ghz. TV capture leaves a little to be desired as well. Analog capture excellent and recording options and features are plentiful. I now spend alot of time testing the cards capability and recording options. Takes time to get used to video/sound capture and different settings.

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1 Star Review   By member Scott - May 21, 2003   

Strengths: Displays somewhat of a picture and TV features works ok.

Weakness: Loaded with weaknesses. Worst card I could ever purchased. DO NOT USE THIS CARD WITH A ECS MOTHERBOARD!!!!! Works ok with an asus motherboard BUT STINKS TOTALY WITH ECS MOTHERBOARDS!

In every case I found this motherboard to suck with runing games. For doing video or tvcapture its avarage. I suggest to anyone looking for a video card to go with something other than ATI.

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4 Star Review   By member vkim - May 7, 2003   

Strengths: All in wonder!

Weakness: Needs better windows drivers.

It is a cool all-in-one product. I am pretty happy with this product. It functions as promised. The user's reviews are interesting. There is no intermedite (2-4 stars) rate, always excellent(5 star) or poor(1 star). I am not sure what other folks don't like. For me, it works fine. Though I am satisfied with it, there are few problems with this product. 1. There are unexpected reboots while using this card. I don't expect a rock-solid PC, so it is OK to me. It usually crashes while using TV. I suspect that its high temperature to cause the crash. 2. I haven't used s-video before, so I am not sure whether it is a s-video problem or card problem. It does not capture sound when using s-video connection. Other connections work fine. 3. Sometimes, fan makes little noise. I wish it has a heat sink instead of a cooling fan. I don't like noisy computer. But given its small dimension and high levels of integration, I admit that it needs active cooling. 4. It may increase your system temperature. It should be OK for most users, but it could be a problem for over-clockers. I also overclocked slightly, hence temperature is one of the concern. So far it is manageable. Overall, it is a fine product. I recommend this card for anyone who wants solution for all multi-media appetites.

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1 Star Review   By member ron06351 - May 1, 2003   

Weakness: can not get tv sound to work as for support ati could care less.

my experance with this product I would not purchest another ati product ever! I tride to get in contack with ati and got noware it aparent that they just do not care! TOO BAD

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5 Star Review   By member ana_quinones - Apr 14, 2003   

Strengths: -Ease of capture w/ large variety of capture options -Easy AGP install, as long as you follow directions -Very good option for media pc- great for viewing PC output on TV -Good graphics card, great $

Weakness: -"Pickiness" of ATI drivers when installing. Just do it in order ATI tells you & use website drivers & you'll be fine. Drivers have improved since 2001. -(Apparent) lack of customer support from ATI

Great card for 'regular' & media pc's: * I set my pc to record any show up to channel 125 (only analog channels thru the tv tuner, not digital) * I output my pc to the living room TV via s-video & use it as a tv tuner, DVD player, VCD player, and "2nd" pc monitor. (As a novelty we have output Nintendo-like emulations onto the TV and use a wireless keyboard and mouse to play all of our favorite nostalgic video games thru the pc-- but TV resolution isnt good enough for daily 2nd-monitor use). * I capture tv, VHS & DVD outputs to my hard drive in .mpg format (in real-time!) and burn the product on cd's via the in/outs on the breakout box. (An hour programming in VCD quality can fit onto a single cd). I am able to choose preselected qualities of capture (or set my own custom capture settings) so I don't waste hd space when I record tv shows I'll later delete, but I can capture DVD quality if I chose to later burn DVD-R's. * With all of the in/outputs of the AIW, I will later be able to hook up a digital camcorder (or anything with firewire outputs) to the pc and record/output to TV. I could also hook up an s-video in from a satellite/digital cable box & not use the tv tuner. The #/type of in/outputs means I'm expandable for quite a while. No problem w/ drivers, just do it in order & get the most current ones from ATI's website. Quality graphics card as well, but I'm not a hard-core gamer. If you're looking for a graphics card that has media extras, this is a great one.

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5 Star Review   By member HitokiriRyu - Mar 9, 2003   

Strengths: Almost everything.

Weakness: Only record at 640x240 Max Resolution. Support.

I have not ever had a problem with this card. The tech support should only be necessary for those of you out there that are COMPLETLY, AND "UDDER"LY Computer Illiterate. 99.99% of the problems I have read about this card are either PEBCAK (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard), ID10T, or EEOC (Equipment Exceeds Operator Capability) Errors. YOU MUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE IN YOUR SYSTEM IS COMPATIBLE WITH THIS CARD, AND >>>THAT YOUR POWER SUPPLY CAN DISH-OUT ENOUGH JUICE

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1 Star Review   By member smithiiiii - Mar 3, 2003   

Strengths: DOES NOT WORK WITH HP PRODUCTS HARD TO FIND DRIVER SUCH FUSS WASTE OF MY TIME

Weakness: MANY HOURS AND TO MANY COMPUTER SHOP TO GET IT GOING TO WORK BAD TECH SUPPORT HELL AFTER 30 DAYS WHEN I CHANGE MOTHERBOARD IT CRASH AND GOT FRIED

ATI I THINK WILL GO 404 VERY SOON WILL SUCH PRODUCTS EVEN MAJOR COMPUTER SHOP ARE NO LONGER STOCKING ALOT OF ATI PRODUCTS SO SAD I JUST CHANGE TO A GEFORCE4T14200 SUCH A NICE CARD ON MY 3.06 HT HP MACHINE WILL 1012 DDR RAMBUS MOMERY VERY FAST THANK YOU NVIDIA

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Description
With 64MB of DDR memory, unbelievable graphics, TV and video capture & editing features, the ALL-IN-WONDER® RADEON 8500DV is the revolutionary all-in-one 3D graphics and multimedia experience.
Quick Glance
Slot/Port Type AGP 4x
Video Chipset Radeon 8500
Interface Connection 1 x S/PDIF S/PDIF, 1 x S-Video S-Video In, 1 x S-Video S-Video Out, 1 x Audio Line In, 1 x Audio Line Out, 1 x DVI-I, 2 x 6-pin IEEE 1394 (6-pin) IEEE 1394a - FireWire, 1 x Composite Composite Video In, 1 x Composite Composite Video Out
normalized-Installed Video Memory 64
Summary
Product Title ATI ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV Graphics Card
Manufacturer ATI
Lowest Price $99.00 from Amazon.com Marketplace
Power Score 3.0 | 47 Reviews
Memory
Installed Video Memory: 64 MB
Memory Technology: DDR SDRAM
Compatibility
System Type: PC
System Requirements: Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron, AMD® K6/Athlon® or compatible with AGP 2.0 Compliant BUS - AGP 2X (3.3V), AGP 4X (1.5V), or AGP2X/4X based systems 64MB of system memory Installation software requires CD-ROM drive DVD playback requires DVD drive Sound card supported by Windows® and DirectSound® with available line input Interactive Program Guide requires Internet connection for listing updates Remote control receiver requires available USB port 500Mhz minimum processor speed for MPEG-2 video capture
Warranty
Warranty Information: 3 Year Limited
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Additional Specifications
Category: Video
AGP Support: AGP 2X, AGP 4X
Color Depth at Maximum Resolution: 16.7 Million Colors (24-bit)
Type of Video Card: 2D/3D Video w/TV Support
Description: 0
Max Resolution: 1152 x 864, 1280 x 1024, 1600 x 1200 (UXGA), 1920 x 1080, 1920 x 1200, 1920 x 1440, 2048 x 1536, 640 x 480 (SVGA), 800 x 600 (SVGA)
Labor Warranty: 3 year(s)
Class: Card
Base Warranty: 3 year(s)
Parts Warranty: 3 year(s)
Display Refresh Rate: 85 Hz
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User Reviews
2 Star Review   By member texasbrew - Sep 12, 2003   

Strengths: Very good card for gaming. I play Battlefield 1942 online at high resolution and the card works without a glitch.

Weakness: I cannot get Windows XP to recogonize the three firewire ports. ATI tech support says it is a windows problem and I cannot get a response on the windows message boards.

This is my second ATI video card. Both work fine for video capture and recording, except for the firewire problem with the newest card. Tech support is not good at all. After e-mailing ATI tech support several times I keep getting a return e-mail telling me to click on links for the most common problems. It is as if a human does not look at my e-mails and an automated system sends reply e-mails. I will probably not buy another ATI product, because the main reason I bought the card is for the firewire capability. If all I wanted was a video card I could have bought one of the same quality at a cheaper price. An update to this: I sent the card back to ATI ($8 UPS including $200 insurance), they had it for two days and sent me a brand new one that works. My question is, if they new there was a problem with this card and I registered mine, why didn't they contact me and let me know that there was a possible problem? If your firewire ports don't work and you are under the 3 year warranty, send it back!

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5 Star Review   By member professorchaos - Aug 17, 2003   

Strengths: Thru-view window, capture, price I HAVE MINE HOOKED UP TO A 42inch PLASMA, yes I am a true geek

Weakness: Yeah, Yeah.....The drivers. If you're a weekend tinkerer, this card might prove to be a challenge to instal.

For the price, how can you complain? Turn your computer into a tv, what more can you ask for? If you spend alot of time in front of your machine, like me, you'll love this thing...Assuming you can work and watch tv at the same time. I don't play many games so i opted for only 64MB. I'll admit it's kind of a pain in the butt to set up, so non-techies might want to have their local geek set it up for them. By the way, for all those people with negative comments: 1)you must update the ati media software package as well as the catalyst! 2)this card utilizes dma on the primary Hard drive, so you might need to configure some other settings that you might not be familiar with, if the thing reboots when you have a recording session scheduled. 3)download the windows media encoder(free)to stream live tv to your desktop at work. I watch tv with this card from 40 miles away and use the remote desktop in XP Pro to change the channel. The windows media encoder actually takes control of the tuner in the card so you can change the channel right in the program itself without opening the ati TV. I wish i could post a link for this to help all you guys out, cause it seems everyone has a problem with it.

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5 Star Review   By member DYLAN69 - Jun 30, 2003   

Strengths: EVERYTHING

Weakness: ALLREADY CONSIDERED EOL (END OF LIFE) BY ATI

I DONT GET ALL THE BAD REVIEWS. THIS BOARD ROCKS. I THINK THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT LIKE THIS CARD DONT UNDERSTAND THAT IT WASNT MENT TO BE USED JUST FOR GAMEING. I MEAN IF THATS WHAT YOUR PRIMARILLY DO WITH YOUR COMPUTER THEN YEA, YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE IT. BUT HEY GET A CLUE. DID YOU NOTICE AL THE MULTI-MEDIA ASPECTS OF THIS CARD? I MEAN COME ON USE YOUR HEAD. AS FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE COMPLAINTS. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO CALL ATI ABOUT ANYWAY? IF YOU WANT TO TURN THE TV ON THEN CLICK THE TV BUTTON, SAME GOES FOR ALL THE OTHER FUNCTIONS. PRETTY SIMPLE STUFF HERE THANK GOD MOST OF YOU ARNT GONNA BE ROCKET SCIENTISTS. IF YOU CANT GET THE CARD TO WORK---STOP SPENDING MAMA'S MONEY ON TECHNOLOGY YOU REALLY DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT ANYWAY. PLAY YOUR KIDDY GAMES WITH SOMETING DESIGNED FOR GAMES!

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4 Star Review   By member benspargur - May 22, 2003   

Strengths: Several Video in/out features

Weakness: Recordings frequently poor and frequently requires reboot to fix poor recording and TV captures.

Overall the product is very good. Most of the features work as advertised yet support is indeed poor. Website support also lacking. Most of the time captures are superb but recordings become poor and require reboot to fix. I am running a very capable PC 2.53 Ghz. TV capture leaves a little to be desired as well. Analog capture excellent and recording options and features are plentiful. I now spend alot of time testing the cards capability and recording options. Takes time to get used to video/sound capture and different settings.

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1 Star Review   By member Scott - May 21, 2003   

Strengths: Displays somewhat of a picture and TV features works ok.

Weakness: Loaded with weaknesses. Worst card I could ever purchased. DO NOT USE THIS CARD WITH A ECS MOTHERBOARD!!!!! Works ok with an asus motherboard BUT STINKS TOTALY WITH ECS MOTHERBOARDS!

In every case I found this motherboard to suck with runing games. For doing video or tvcapture its avarage. I suggest to anyone looking for a video card to go with something other than ATI.

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4 Star Review   By member vkim - May 7, 2003   

Strengths: All in wonder!

Weakness: Needs better windows drivers.

It is a cool all-in-one product. I am pretty happy with this product. It functions as promised. The user's reviews are interesting. There is no intermedite (2-4 stars) rate, always excellent(5 star) or poor(1 star). I am not sure what other folks don't like. For me, it works fine. Though I am satisfied with it, there are few problems with this product. 1. There are unexpected reboots while using this card. I don't expect a rock-solid PC, so it is OK to me. It usually crashes while using TV. I suspect that its high temperature to cause the crash. 2. I haven't used s-video before, so I am not sure whether it is a s-video problem or card problem. It does not capture sound when using s-video connection. Other connections work fine. 3. Sometimes, fan makes little noise. I wish it has a heat sink instead of a cooling fan. I don't like noisy computer. But given its small dimension and high levels of integration, I admit that it needs active cooling. 4. It may increase your system temperature. It should be OK for most users, but it could be a problem for over-clockers. I also overclocked slightly, hence temperature is one of the concern. So far it is manageable. Overall, it is a fine product. I recommend this card for anyone who wants solution for all multi-media appetites.

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1 Star Review   By member ron06351 - May 1, 2003   

Weakness: can not get tv sound to work as for support ati could care less.

my experance with this product I would not purchest another ati product ever! I tride to get in contack with ati and got noware it aparent that they just do not care! TOO BAD

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5 Star Review   By member ana_quinones - Apr 14, 2003   

Strengths: -Ease of capture w/ large variety of capture options -Easy AGP install, as long as you follow directions -Very good option for media pc- great for viewing PC output on TV -Good graphics card, great $

Weakness: -"Pickiness" of ATI drivers when installing. Just do it in order ATI tells you & use website drivers & you'll be fine. Drivers have improved since 2001. -(Apparent) lack of customer support from ATI

Great card for 'regular' & media pc's: * I set my pc to record any show up to channel 125 (only analog channels thru the tv tuner, not digital) * I output my pc to the living room TV via s-video & use it as a tv tuner, DVD player, VCD player, and "2nd" pc monitor. (As a novelty we have output Nintendo-like emulations onto the TV and use a wireless keyboard and mouse to play all of our favorite nostalgic video games thru the pc-- but TV resolution isnt good enough for daily 2nd-monitor use). * I capture tv, VHS & DVD outputs to my hard drive in .mpg format (in real-time!) and burn the product on cd's via the in/outs on the breakout box. (An hour programming in VCD quality can fit onto a single cd). I am able to choose preselected qualities of capture (or set my own custom capture settings) so I don't waste hd space when I record tv shows I'll later delete, but I can capture DVD quality if I chose to later burn DVD-R's. * With all of the in/outputs of the AIW, I will later be able to hook up a digital camcorder (or anything with firewire outputs) to the pc and record/output to TV. I could also hook up an s-video in from a satellite/digital cable box & not use the tv tuner. The #/type of in/outputs means I'm expandable for quite a while. No problem w/ drivers, just do it in order & get the most current ones from ATI's website. Quality graphics card as well, but I'm not a hard-core gamer. If you're looking for a graphics card that has media extras, this is a great one.

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5 Star Review   By member HitokiriRyu - Mar 9, 2003   

Strengths: Almost everything.

Weakness: Only record at 640x240 Max Resolution. Support.

I have not ever had a problem with this card. The tech support should only be necessary for those of you out there that are COMPLETLY, AND "UDDER"LY Computer Illiterate. 99.99% of the problems I have read about this card are either PEBCAK (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard), ID10T, or EEOC (Equipment Exceeds Operator Capability) Errors. YOU MUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE IN YOUR SYSTEM IS COMPATIBLE WITH THIS CARD, AND >>>THAT YOUR POWER SUPPLY CAN DISH-OUT ENOUGH JUICE

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1 Star Review   By member smithiiiii - Mar 3, 2003   

Strengths: DOES NOT WORK WITH HP PRODUCTS HARD TO FIND DRIVER SUCH FUSS WASTE OF MY TIME

Weakness: MANY HOURS AND TO MANY COMPUTER SHOP TO GET IT GOING TO WORK BAD TECH SUPPORT HELL AFTER 30 DAYS WHEN I CHANGE MOTHERBOARD IT CRASH AND GOT FRIED

ATI I THINK WILL GO 404 VERY SOON WILL SUCH PRODUCTS EVEN MAJOR COMPUTER SHOP ARE NO LONGER STOCKING ALOT OF ATI PRODUCTS SO SAD I JUST CHANGE TO A GEFORCE4T14200 SUCH A NICE CARD ON MY 3.06 HT HP MACHINE WILL 1012 DDR RAMBUS MOMERY VERY FAST THANK YOU NVIDIA

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4 Star Review   By member hassan2k2 - Feb 25, 2003   

Strengths: Capturing video

Weakness: Little fuzzy while capturing from TV

Great card, works great with catalyst driver 3.1 in Need for speed Hot pursuit 2. Didn't have any trouble with the catalyst driver before (never hanged). Runs well in my Me and XP Pro SP1. Their technical support is good, replies within 1~2 days in full details. I am looking forward to buy ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (when the price goes down).

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2 Star Review   By member DarkHorse1k969 - Feb 8, 2003   

Strengths: The TV features. Guide Plus is great and remote is a nice touch.

Weakness: Terrible drivers. The board seems to actually be getting too hot. Bad for 3D games and slower than advertised performance.

This is really disappointing to me, as I have been drooling over getting a 9700 Pro when the prices drop. I work on a tech bench so I got the opportunity try two cards. I did clean windows installs. I tried it with 98se, 2000 and XP. I Updated the drivers as instructed. I loaded and reloaded different drivers and played with video settings until my head hurt. I screamed at the top of my lungs. No luck. ATI should be ashamed at releasing this buggy excuse of a Radeon. One of my favorite cards ever was an All-In-Wonder and I loved it. This card makes me never want to buy another All-In-Wonder. A pity. The board was burning up when I took it it of my machine, to grudgingly put my GeForce 3 back in. I work on quite a few computers and have encountered very few running that hot. I run a P4 2.53, with a solid Antec power supply and case. A good motherboard and plenty of DDR 333. This card should be blazing (but not to the touch). And for those of you keeping this card and holding out on ATI to get better drivers... Good luck. The brand new Catalyst drivers suck too. Zero improvement there with DirectX 8.1 OR 9. I am still going to pay for a few pennies towards an ATI 9700 Pro to replace this one with. The reviews are solid and the benchmarks spank the ti4400 in some important areas. It even holds tight along a ti4600. The directX9 features and the reportedly more stable drivers are also enticing. So I haven't given up on Radeon YET...

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4 Star Review   By member wilburnkim - Jan 30, 2003   

Strengths: Works, speed and features

Weakness: not perfectly clear when recording from a vcr, the top and bottom had squiggles.

Worked great overall. Played Combat Flight Sim with it and was blown away with the quality and speed. System is a P4 2.53G with 1G of 1066 Rambus mem. Did 'TIVO' type functionality in spades.

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1 Star Review   By member Neofelis - Jan 19, 2003   

Strengths: NOTHING

Weakness: THE DRIVER SUCKS!

Frickin video driver crashes every operating system I have used except Linux. But then there is no Linux driver for it and I'm using another driver which means no functionality. Windows 2000 freezes randomly within the first 30 secs of running it. XP gave me a message that the driver is causing problems and shortly after froze. Tried the driver for the Radeon 8500, All-In-One-Wonder 8500, Radeon 8500LE, no use. Tried updated driver version from ATI's site, same problem. I'm using a BE6 with PIII 450, 384 MB RAM. I don't know how anyone else got it to work, I can't do a damn thing with this card which is a big disappointment cause I like the features a lot. Hopefully ATI will make a working driver for this card soon.

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4 Star Review   By member macoxp - Jan 13, 2003   

Strengths: It can do it all.

Weakness: poor proformence with the win 9x and me series

This card is great if you are running win 2k or xp but I have had a lot of troble with it on 98 and ME

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1 Star Review   By member tiphys - Dec 10, 2002   

Strengths: Cool accessories, great hype.

Weakness: Product does not perform up to advertized capability

I owned this card for a few months before I installed it on a dual PIII 750 ASUS board running XP PRO. Basic functions worked and install was not difficult (this is the 2nd ATI AIW Card that I own... The other is an older card in a PIII 450 ABIT BH6 board running W98SE). I had trouble with video capture and DVD capture right from the start. Many hours were spent on the website looking for fixes and driver info. Many more hours spent trying to get support from ATI...don't waste your time... no living beings exist at ATI... Support is nonexistant (if someone from ATI reads this - perhaps while surfing from some remote location on some tropical island...since no one actually works at ATI - I would appreciate an email with a phone number that connects to living tech support). After a month of frustration, I removed the card and bought a DAZZLE product. It doesn't have all the features, but what it does have WORK. And that's more than ATI can say. I will NEVER buy another ATI product unless there is REAL TECH SUPPORT...since I know that their products will need it. If you think that any of the positive reviews were written by folks who actually own this product, rather than ATI employees, email them and ask for a phone number to ATI tech support before you waste your time and money cause you're going to need it.

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5 Star Review   By member sherritp - Dec 3, 2002   

Strengths: It does it all. Box contains RF remote, firewire cable, RCA cable, svideo cable. Frequent driver updates.

Weakness: PVR software still can be improved.

I've had several PCI cards in my machine in an attempt to record The West Wing episodes to disk, edit the commercials, and record them to SVCD. I've didn't like the Pinnacle PCTV product (poor video capture) and had a Pinnacle DV and a Pinnacle AV board. In getting the AIW, I freed three PCI slots and I was able to pay for the AIW AND a new 100GB hard drive with the money I got in my return. I don't want to defend ATI, but they do have good drivers for Windows XP and update them regularly. There can be problems installing drivers, but that often happens when new drivers are installed over old ones (always uninstall video drivers and reboot before updating to new drivers). Make sure to upgrade to the newest version of MMC (software that schedules recording and allows you to set the recording resolution and format). You can now capture directly to an SVCD-compatible .mpg. I've been very impressed with this and am able to produce better-than-VHS quality SVCD's (42 min of video onto a 700MB disk). I have had good luck with capturing both from TV and through DV. I haven't used the TV-in yet, but I expect that it is of fine quality. With a card that has this much on it, there are things that can go wrong. I changed my rating to 5 stars because of the accessories: the breakout box is awesome, the RF remote is great (it can even control WinAmp or PowerPoint), and all the necessary cables are included (more than what you would expect).

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1 Star Review   By member T Bear - Nov 13, 2002   

Strengths: Absolutely none! Do not buy this card. Read comments below.

Weakness: Worst card I ever tried. Poor documentation. Card does not work as advertised! Read comments below.

Sux says it all!!! I bought this card to export video back to VCR but here is what I found: Documentation is very weak. Didn't try support as others have tried and company support had failed them. You have to play the card in TV display mode and then capture the screen to VHS. Output was horrible. TV mode kept freezing up after about 10-15 minutes. Had to turn computer off for about 20 minutes to get TV back for another 10-15 minutes. TV quality was terrible! Snowy with a verified strong clear signal. It was a clean install on WIN XP following the directions exactly followed up by 3 downloaded updates. Nothing helped the quality of TV display. Capture was poor. System is fast Abit KR7a-133r mobo not raided, AMD 2000+ cpu, 512 pc2100 ram, 100 gb HD dedicated capture and defragged. Run away from this video card. Monitor display was no better than a cheaper nVida TI 4200 card. ADDITIONALLY: CompUSA return policy SUX. 15% restocking fee for a dud is unacceptable. Best Buy has earned my future business!!!! The saying goes: "A satisfied customer tells a friend and a dissatisfied customer tell 10."

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4 Star Review   By member mburesh - Oct 22, 2002   

Strengths: Excellent card for TV OUT

Weakness: Only 64MB RAM, 128MB should be standard by now

I use this to watch DVD's on my TV at home and I love it, it even has a remote control that is RF using radio frequency so you can go around corners!

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1 Star Review   By member rfluskin - Sep 30, 2002   

Strengths: Lots of great function.

Weakness: Terrible TV tuner, hard to install software.

The 8500DV was to replace my Matrox 400TV, which worked well but was no longer supported and was low on function, compared to the 8500DV. TV reception was still my primary requirement, and I must admit the Matrox did a great job of that. The 8500 software, as delivered, was buggy. It took several hours of researching and installing fixes. After the software sufficiently stabilized, I turned my attention to the TV tuner. The TV reception was OK on some channels, but horrid or non-existant on the others. I returned the 8500DV and put the Matrox back in. My low rating is based on TV reception. If that is not of concern to you, I suggest you get your 8500DV at a store where returns are easy. I can't speak for the value of the other features, since I did not try those. But, from my experience with the software, I would be cautious about the 8500DV.

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3 Star Review   By member afzalz - Sep 7, 2002   

Strengths: everything in one card

Weakness: the software, ATI customer support is extremely poor-once you get your card you are basically on your own (these is one month of free telephone customer support and after that it is $1.50 per minute!!

I purchased this card about 1.5 months ago. I couldn't get the firewire (IEEE 1394) ports to work despite all the recommendations on the ATI website. I even wiped out my hard drive and did a "clean" install and updated the BIOS. I emailed ATI 3 weeks ago with no response yet. Here is the kicker, I was at a circuit city store asking about returning the card and the sales person told me that there was a recent "RECALL" on the cards where they removed the old ones from the shelf and replaced them with new ones with a new SKU number. Of coarse no notice of this from ATI. Well, I took back the card, got a new one without any hassle (although the return policy at circuit city for computer stuff is only 14 days--way to go CC). I put in the new card and automatically the firewire ports were recognized and everything works fine--except the TV recording on the hard disk is a little choppy--which may be my computer (Athlon 800 MHz/Abit KA7-100 Mobo) I hopes this helps people frustrated with their card--I was always wondering why some people have no problem at all and some have nothing but. The manufacturing quality control is probably lousy combined with poor customer support from ATI.

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1 Star Review   By member SaratogaSteve - Aug 14, 2002   

Strengths: Wonderful integration of features for making a PC based Home Theater system

Weakness: Software/driver bugs and design errors render the product nearly useless

Unfortunately, the 8500DV suffers from the same problems as past cards -- lack of software/driver integration, incompatibilities with Windows, etc. Like my previous ATI purchases, I suspect this card will be obsolete before the dozens of bugs are resolved. I am using the card in a very simple system: AMD Athlon 2.1+ GHz, 512MB RAM, 120GB disk, DVD drive, sound card and Windows XP Pro. I have intentionally avoided other potential sources of incompatibility such as SCSI cards, Office software or ANY games. What I got was problems range from incompatible software from ATI to just stupid architectural decisions. The Multimedia software (especially the TV-on-Demand feature) was incompatible with the DVD software. I could install the DVD software and get it to work, but the TV-on-demand would not work. I would re-install the multimedia software and the TV-on-Demand would work. However, the DVD software stopped working! I tried not only the procedure suggested by ATI, but I also tried dozens of different sequences of de-installing, installing, re-installing, etc. to see if I could get both working. No luck. I finally resorted to using PowerDVD as the DVD player. The sound path used by ATI requires a double pass through the sound card for TV-on-demand to work right. This is not supported by many sound cards! The first "pass" should be within the ATI card, not through the sound card. I am overall VERY disappointed in ATI "quality."

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5 Star Review   By member SONY - Jul 22, 2002   

Strengths: Good price, remonte (radio wave), Great drivers Window XP.

Weakness: Little pricey! 64MB

Well this product is serious about it too! I have been into computer video creating and editing for many years, have tried many different products over the years. Until now video editing hardware has been either too expensive for the average Joe to afford or too junky to do the job properly. But the ATI ALL IN WONDER RADON 8500 does the job so good I still can't believe it. Excellent and fast rendering of edited video, no dropped frames anymore, does MPEG1 & MPEG2 beautifully and works great on Windows XP.

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1 Star Review   By member vesprice - Jul 20, 2002   

Strengths: Lots of features, FireWire, analog capture, good graphics part, MPEG2, etc

Weakness: totaly unreliable software. Was unable to set it up for capturing. crashed the system. Weird updates from ATI website. screen graphics are blurred

Bought 8500DV for $163. Initialy though it is good deal. 1.After two days strugling to make all the features working failed to fix the capture at all. 2.Update from the web site is very weird - you have to download & install several version in order to have the latest one. Is it easy with DLS, poor dial-up users :( 3.Software is totaly useless since is crahses the win2000 every time you try to run TV/capture part. Initially was crashing when you start the launch pad. Numerous updates fixed this one. Too may problems. 4.Hadrware is not the greatest one either - on the board there is a resistor that get extremely hot - NO-WONDER it draws to much from the power suply. I had to upgrade the power supply too. 5.Have read that the customer support is horrible so I did not even tried - just took it back. Will never try ATI built product again, even though they are relesing the 9000/PRO/9700 cards. 6.The screen graphics was not really sharp, a little blurred compared to my old STB Virge/Nitro S3. win2000, XP1600+, 256 OEM DDR333, AGP4

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2 Star Review   By member dziban303 - Jun 28, 2002   

Strengths: Good 3D performance, lots of features

Weakness: Software/drivers a bit spotty; tuner never did work right

Never got the tuner to work well, gave a snowy picture 80% of the time. I wouldn't be surprised if that was due to lousy coax, though the same cable works fine in my TV. After a few months of (non-overclocked) use, strange artifacts began to develop on screen, followed by random lockups of WinXP. Tried it in another machine with same results. Now it won't even boot. Not exactly a happy camper considering the price I paid for it.

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2 Star Review   By member ghicks - May 8, 2002   

Strengths: Lots of features, easy to install.

Weakness: Pricey, doesn't like some 3D games

I loved this card for seven great days until the TV tuner stoped working. Everything else seems to work just fine. The tuner must be bad. Hope to be in love again after the card is replaced. If tuner worked I would have given it 4 out of 5 stars.

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1 Star Review   By member kier - May 7, 2002   

Strengths: Fast graphics rendering for 3D games and such

Weakness: Extremely poor implementation of features (for example, the TV/DVD player software will only play on a TV when it is the primary display).

I was EXTREMELY disappointed by this product. For one thing, the dual display only works for a CRT/TV or DVI/TV combination (i.e. no CRT/CRT, CRT/DVI, or DVI/DVI combinations). I suppose that I could have discerned this if I hade researched the product more thoroughly. Nevertheless, this would not be so bad if you intended to use the secondary display only for running your TV tuner/DVD player software on your Television, but alas, this software only runs on the primary display. If it can only run on the primary display then what in the world is the point of a dual display feature if the second display has to be a TV (no sense to making the TV a primary display and the CRT a secondary display). Your best bet would be to save a lot of money and get one of the non-dual display All-In-Wonder cards.

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5 Star Review   By member jkg - May 5, 2002   

Strengths: Does everything, great performance.

This card is incredible. Most of the complaints are not legitimate. Put this card in a fast machine, connect it to cable or satellite, and you are ready to rock. It works great with XP and ME.The drivers are easily accesible and frequesntly updated. I always recomend a clean install of Windows when replacing motherboards or video cards. Blame Microsoft, but it is a fact that nearly all of the problems that the complainers have (that are not due to pebcak factor) do not occur with a clean load of the OS.

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5 Star Review   By member shifterman - Apr 29, 2002   

Strengths: the many features it has, and the speed.

Weakness: none so far

This card does everything that's advertised. It was a breeze to install. I was a little hesitant to buy this card after reading some of the reviews, but I am throughly pleased with it. I am running a PIII 866 with 256MB of sdram, O/S XP. I scored 5400 on mad-onion 2002, which is an increase of 2500 over my previous video card which was a radeon all in wonder 32MB. The remote works awesome, I can control my computer from my living room Television. I realize I have not used this card very long, but so far I am impressed and completely satisfied!

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5 Star Review   By member bdgates - Apr 1, 2002   

Strengths: This card has it all, has transformed my computer to a multimedia centre. It REALLY works! Digital TV and DVD and any other digital source looks absoulutly incredible on my Dell P991 monitor.

Weakness: Price, but shop around, getting lower very fast.

I have no idea why others are complaining. Windows XP set this up like a dream! Almost totally automatically. Maybe they didn't READ the instructions first!. It was truely amazing to watch XP installing the many many components to this card totally automatically. I suggest you read the instructions carefully and make sure you have all the latest Windows XP updates before you start. The card is truely amazing and there are lots of drivers for this card, just go to ATI! Some are very new within the last month. The card comes packaged with everything including a firewire cable! Something ATI didn't have to include. The remote works like a dream and RF so perfect for multiroom applications. I just wish there is something that could be done to improve the horrible NTSC signal that the US chose for TV broadcast. I will be glad the day the last NTSC station goes off the air, but that is not ATI's fault. The only problem is with a card this good you really see how lousy our broadcast signals are. I strongly suggest getting a digital box from you cable provider and using the S-vhs imput for the digital channels. I would imagine the European versions must be much better as they use Pal and Secam. While I agree this card should not be put in an older or crappy computer, it just seems like some people are born to complain. If you have a well built computer with quality parts and legitmate software and you really want to transform it into a mulitmedia center then this is it!

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4 Star Review   By member Ernie_Emery - Mar 11, 2002   

Strengths: Very easy to install under Windows XP/Professional and Home Edition. Well thought out integration of TV, DVD and Video Capture.

Weakness: I have had to update software drivers at least twice and there are still some minor bugs which I'm sure Microsoft and ATI will get resolved.

I would strongly recommend this card, even at it's high price. However, don't attempt to use it on a low end computer system. I have three systems, two are Pentium 4, 1.9 GHZ with Intel Board and 512 MB RD Ram. The other is a Pentium 4 with 512 MB SDRAM and 1.6 GHZ Processor. All have 7200 RPM drives with High Transfer rates. Do not load the machine down with a lot of applications running simultaneously and expect to get excellent video capture. Avoid a lot of activity on a network, virus scans, etc. while you are trying to do video captures, editing etc. I would recommend the card and I would also recommend that you build the computer your going to use it in. It's easy and very affordable and you will get the best performance out of the card.

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2 Star Review   By member jktu - Feb 27, 2002   

Strengths: All in one card, nice speed but not for Windows XP

Weakness: Got problems with this card to play 3D games, like Unreal Tornm. look's like all right, but video tugging or making little stops when playing games. Problem on Radeon 8500 with win XP with D3D.

I got strong system 1.4 AMD_XP, 512mb $$$ Mushkin RDRAM and all other good hardware, but this card killing me with this D3D problem. There is a D3D problem with this card if you got more then 128mb RAM on win XP. I found information about this on ATI web site. They trying help you to fix it some how, but it won’t work. I got new drivers on February 2002 and there is a same problem. Waited 4 month to get new drivers and there is no fix. I used NVIDIA product before, and what I can say now: people don't buy this card !!! ATI Sucks. I paid $325 for this card and I can see that GF3 ti500 better then this card with same features. ATI making hardware and don't really care about drivers or software and customer support.

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4 Star Review   By member Jeff3F - Feb 26, 2002   

Strengths: Features (TV, Guide+ for taping shows, digital editing software)

Weakness: Expensive, Slower than other 8500 cards, Numerous crashes and freezes, few official driver updates.

First of all, I love this card. I love having a tv window open while I fritter my free time away on the internet. I love choosing a show off the TV schedule and knowing it'll get taped later. Digital video editing is a great feature, and I appreciated that the card came with a cable AND software for this. The RF remote is great--why don't televions use these? It's nice to change channels without aiming the remote at an IR sensor. Game performance was great, a nice jump up from my GeForce2MX. Crashes in Planescape, though, which blows. My 3Dmark is 6300, not bad given that I use old SDRAM in my system. Installation was long, but only because there were so many features to install. The AV I/O "dongle", the software packages, etc. It went smoothly, and I had no problems getting everything working as advertised. However, for the first 3 weeks I had this card, I had demoralizing system freezes whenever I used ANY web browser for more than a few minutes. I spent a lot of time troubleshooting this, with absolutely no help from ATI. It wasn't straightforward to contact them for help, and I got discouraged (www made my computer freeze, remember). Luckily there is an active forum on rage3d.com, and there I got my fix idea. Since fixing the www freezes, the card has been rock solid. So while not perfect, and pricey, I would not now willingly give up my TV tuner and firewire port.

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3 Star Review   By member Turpitt - Feb 5, 2002   

Strengths: Fast, RF remote,lots of features

Weakness: Company support, drivers, Dumb Ass's like Ski Dog as fellow owners

UPDATED First, let me state that this review is actually about the ATI AIW Radeon 8500 DV. Installation: Easy, No problems Performance: Fast, but not as fast as a $300 card should be. Features: Tons. No other card compares Functionality: 1. DVD playback is flawless. 2. The digital VCR function works well, recording in 600 x 400 @29.97 FPS, 8Mbps (Mpeg2 format) perfectly. 3. Under WinME, the File Player is problematic. It plays Mpeg and ATI files smoothly, but at an accelerated frame rate, on the order of 35-45 FPS. ---AFTER 3 MONTHS, ATI HAS FINALLY ADMITTED TO THIS FLAW. WE'LL SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES THEM TO FIX IT. 4. The solid state TV tuner has some reception issues. This is a much noted problem. ATI support has nothing but canned, ineffective responses to this issue. 5. Remote control: Super! -nuff said 6. ATI support: Weak, at best. The typical ATI response is to blame the other computer components rather than admitting there is a problem with their product. Opinions: This is the best ATI card I've owned. It has solid performance, great features, and much future potential. It also has some serious flaws. If ATI can come to grips with their support/driver problems and their inferiority complex, and fix the flaws with this card, it will be outstanding. Recommendation: Give ATI a little more time to iron out the bugs before purchasing this card

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5 Star Review   By member Skidog - Feb 2, 2002   

Strengths: High quality, well built and well thought out. Software had great functionality, especially the hydravision which worked great!! Loads of features.

Weakness: Possibility of having idiots as fellow owners.

I found product support to be fine. If those who are complaining of product support would have taken the time to check what OS it operates under, they wouldn't have a problem. Recommendation: Switch to ME, 2000 or XP. You wouldn't put a Ferrari engine into a LADA would you?

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2 Star Review   By member bugiwan - Jan 18, 2002   

Strengths: A great all in one card.

Weakness: Does not work with Windows Media encoder 7.1 or even Windows Media encoder 4.1. The older all in wonder 128 worked with 4.1 but not 7.1. I purchased this as an upgrade but had to take it back.

I would not buy this card again. Video streaming was the purpose for buying this card, and it would not work at all with either encoder.

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3 Star Review   By member topdjonline - Dec 31, 2001   

Strengths: I have had several ati devices one of the first was Mach64 card 2 or 4 meg version this was the killer card 5 years ago also have a gateway solo 9300 p3 650 1 year old ati rage mobility capture

Weakness: they do need more support for they display's my rage mobilty only has limited funtion's in xp and there is no support

Ati builds some good stuff I wish there was more support And I hope this Radeon line gets improved as to get 4 and 5 star ratings, but as it looks I've changed my mind about buy one and will be reading the boards for user opinions

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4 Star Review   By member dwiantow - Dec 29, 2001   

Strengths: all in one card and great tv tuner

Weakness: trouble when update driver

I have aiw 128 and it is good vga card because can capture, tv tuner, and tv out. It is a cheap solutions for all in one. But when i want to upgrade ati mmc with new driver i got some trouble. Capture video cant continue after 5 minutes, blue background at tv display in win2k. so its good but ati have to improve their support on driver. for new aiw its more good because there is firewire conector. i will wait untill the price for new aiw drop and i will buy it.

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1 Star Review   By member artvladi22 - Dec 21, 2001   

Strengths: speed

Weakness: crap software, crap TV tuner

1. TV tuner is a crap - too hazy screen with almost any signal strength 2. ATI multimedia center generates page faults in XP 4. VCR can not start when the screen saver is active 5. Hydravision is a fraudulent advertizement - there is NO use of TV monitor at the same time 6. ATI DVD player is a crap too - the dolby sound gets out of sync after 10-15 minutes of playback 7. USB remote control driver prevents XP to enter into stanby mode 8. Uses too much power Overal: the card is almost useless because of numerous bugs in software and hardware, many features that are useless

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2 Star Review   By member mattb - Dec 18, 2001   

Strengths: Nice speed

Weakness: Not as fast as you would expect for 300.00 Crappy tv tuner - very sensitive and lots of static driver issues

I have been waiting for this card for a while and wanted to get it as soon as it rolled out - and I did. It has a ton of features but the most astounding thing was that I really didn't see that much of adifference from my previous Nvidia 256 w/ 32M and surely not 300 bucks worth. I'll keep it but I'm not running to tell folks to go get it...

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5 Star Review   By member mem868 - Dec 14, 2001   

Strengths: Transparent Layer Is great (now it just looks like im working great for productivity)

Weakness: This thing gets HOT ambient temp comes into play here, but the Heat sink does help REC. place fan above it.

Please dont review something if YOU DONT HAVE IT blaming a company for bad support is one thing but this product deserves a better review than from people how cant get over issues in the past if I stopped using computer products for that one reason I'd still be using a Apple IIe and running basic programs GET A GRIP. Other than that if you want the best multimedia card so far and can afford 300$ just for a card go get.

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5 Star Review   By member Kriilin - Dec 11, 2001   

Strengths: RF remote, variable video mask overlay, TIVO functionality, etc.

Weakness: People who can't get over themselves

I'm writing this review to balance out the previous ones who are still pi**ed about a product they bought years ago. Why don't you keep dissin' ATI, and when Nvidia is the only card co. ,then prices will go down and performance will go up (yeah right). Yeah I know ATI's previous drivers were mediocre at best, but now that Nvidia is keeping then honest, why don't you previous reviewers submit an honest review based on the present, not the past. If then you can honestly say its a crappy product, then so be it. Your reviews are of no use to newbies. As far as THG's review went, the tuner is not going to preform properly as North, South America, and Japan use NTSC (480i), wheras Europe uses PAL (540i). I'm actually surprised THG got any kind of picture at all.

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1 Star Review   By member Hardball - Dec 10, 2001   

Strengths: Generally cool to have the TV/DVR and remote control linked into the PC.

Weakness: Incredibly poor driver support. Website for reporting bugs is down most of the time.

I couldn't get the TV working with my current install of Win2k, so I reformatted and reinstalled. The TV now works, but the card can't wake up from a suspend-to-RAM (it blue screen's the PC). It's depressing for how much this card costs. I'm holding on to this card in hopes for an ATI turn around, but this may be the last ATI card I purchase. (I've owned 5 ATI cards before this one) 3D gaming seems to work well, though. Unreal Tournament runs faster with this card than with the identical machine running with an All-in-Wonder Radeon.

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2 Star Review   By member mcplaza - Dec 3, 2001   

Strengths: build quality

Weakness: ATI support and low customer satisfaction

I've being buying ATI products since the first All in Wonder, passing thru Fury Maxx (what a shame) with lots a problems and no solutions from ATI. If they do not change their performance I won't buy anything again, even being compeled to do this with new AIW 8500DV.

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5 Star Review   By member RobertB - Nov 30, 2001   

Strengths: A DO EVERTHING CARD. PVR, RF REMOTE, FIREWIRE

I HAVE AN ALL IN WONDER RADEON 32MB, & HAVE NOT HAD A PROBLEM. I'VE BUILT A ENTERTAINMENT RIG WITH THE ALL IN WONDER RADEON AND IT HAS BEEN GREAT. IT'S HOOKED UP TO MY 46' WIDESCREEN DIGITAL MITSUBISHI TV & SURROUND SOUND. I USE IT TO RECORD ALL MY SHOWS. BUT NOW THE 8500DV IS COMING OUT. IT'LL BE MY NEXT UPGRADE. WITH DIGITAL DECODING CAPABILITIES, RF REMOTE, 64MB, NEW CHIP. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST VIDEO CARD EVER MADE. BAR NONE.

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2 Star Review   By member Diennguyen - Nov 29, 2001   

Strengths: The features are good but it is a nightmare to get drivers from ATI

Weakness: What good is it to have all the features but ATI cannot seem to produce adaquate and functional drivers for them?

I paid a hefty amount for the all-in-wonder 128 and it has been a nightmare to get the drivers. Even when I finally downloaded the drivers, they would not function correctly and often crashed my computer (especially the ATIMMC). So I don't recommend it unless ATI can show a change in their business model.

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2 Star Review   By member yoplait - Nov 27, 2001   

Weakness: poor drivers and tech support.

I purchased the ATI AllInWonder Radeon and was so unhappy with the drivers and tech support that I will never buy ATI again. They still haven't fixed the support for encoding/broadcasting video with RealProducer or Windows Media encoder.

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